• Tab Candy: They're (poorly) reinventing the Wheel

    Par divarvel dans GNU / Linux, Free Software le 29 Juillet 2010 à 08:09

    It's a fact, more and more applications are web-based, and the tabbed browsing shows its limits. Tabs are now like real applications and need to be managed more precisely and with less hassle. That's why the firefox folks created Tab Candy.

    This is stupid. There are tons of good window managers out there. Why do anybody need to spend time on reinventing one, which won't be as good as existing ones, in addition to create a strong separation between web apps and the regular ones ?

    If you want to have several groups of tabs, use several windows. If you want to have a quick access to a web app, give it its own window (with uzbl or jumanji for instance). This way, all your applications (web or regular) behave consistently, and you can use the full power of your WM instead of beeing forced to use a stoneage WM inside your browser.

    Problem solved.

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    Paul Rouget
    Jeudi 29 Juillet 2010 à 10:38
    Paul Rouget

    Ok. What is this magic Window Manager?

    multiplatform, with grouping, which would allow sharing and unload, net connection (for sync), extensibility and theming (for web dev), ...

    BTW, what are the real issues we are not working on?

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    Kazé
    Jeudi 29 Juillet 2010 à 11:03

    I’ve been using tiling window managers for three years now (dwm, awesome, wmii and now i3). I kinda see your point — “kinda”, cause I still prefer to have tabs in my browser: I switch windows with Vim-like shortcuts (super+HJKL), I switch/move tabs with similar shortcuts (meta+HJKL)… and the overall consistency is done thanks to Vimperator. Call me a nerd.

    However, how many people use a “non-stoneage” WM nowadays? Probably less than 0.1% of all internet users. When you write “now you can work on real issues”, you’re just saying that Mozilla addresses the issues of the other 99.9% users instead of yours.

    Like Paul, I’d like to know what “real issues” Mozilla isn’t working on?

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    divarvel Profil de divarvel
    Jeudi 29 Juillet 2010 à 18:32
    divarvel

    I was deliberately a bit violent just to make people react ;-) (and to express my frustration).

    I'm really happy with firefox, and think that Mozilla does a great work

    I use a tiling WM to, but my point is more on consistency than on features. Even with a plain old floating WM, I used to have different windows for firefox and it was ok.

    Of course I use tabs (even though in can have tabs managed by my WM). But for gmail, or other webapps, I prefer to run it separately (to take advantage of the virtual desktops for instance)

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    divarvel Profil de divarvel
    Jeudi 29 Juillet 2010 à 18:34
    divarvel

    I was not saying you're not working on real issues, I was saying this one is not really an issue :P

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    Kazé
    Vendredi 30 Juillet 2010 à 11:19

    I’d say that if you just want to run web apps in their own windows, Prism should be a pretty straight-forward solution: http://prism.mozillalabs.com/

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    divarvel Profil de divarvel
    Vendredi 30 Juillet 2010 à 16:30
    divarvel
    Yup, I currently use uzbl for that, but I should compare the two solutions, in terms of weight / convenience.
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